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		<title>By: Valuing Startup Options @ Hyperextended Metaphor</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Valuing Startup Options @ Hyperextended Metaphor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a contrarian perspective, you can read Venture Hacks, which disagrees with me and says you should focus on share price. They also have a whole post on analyzing startup job offers. Further evidence there are many ways [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a contrarian perspective, you can read Venture Hacks, which disagrees with me and says you should focus on share price. They also have a whole post on analyzing startup job offers. Further evidence there are many ways [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:

Recently joined and early-stage startup which has been 100% self funded to date. I&#039;m joining as an executive and recognizing that the core team is not yet built-out, I&#039;m suggesting to the founders that they take their dilution up-front and set aside a  share-option pool to be used to build-out the core team. This serves three purposes; 1) protects me and others from further (unknown) dilution as we bring on new team members, 2) it avoids the endless negotiations and re-calculation of the cap table for every new hire, 3) it provides a pool of shares which can be used as compensation for project-based consultants.

Does this make sense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:</p>
<p>Recently joined and early-stage startup which has been 100% self funded to date. I&#8217;m joining as an executive and recognizing that the core team is not yet built-out, I&#8217;m suggesting to the founders that they take their dilution up-front and set aside a  share-option pool to be used to build-out the core team. This serves three purposes; 1) protects me and others from further (unknown) dilution as we bring on new team members, 2) it avoids the endless negotiations and re-calculation of the cap table for every new hire, 3) it provides a pool of shares which can be used as compensation for project-based consultants.</p>
<p>Does this make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to add that share percentage is key - not just share price.  If your ownership goes down to less than 25% of the voting shares, and you are pushed into a minority position, your power within the company weakens considerably - to the point that your value can be wiped out fairly easily unless you have suitable provisions in your investment agreement. Fighting a case based on the prejudice of minorities is  expensive and incredibly difficult, particularly if you have been forced out and off the board. And even if you win you often don&#039;t get your legal costs paid. Control or protections over share issues are absolutely vital.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to add that share percentage is key &#8211; not just share price.  If your ownership goes down to less than 25% of the voting shares, and you are pushed into a minority position, your power within the company weakens considerably &#8211; to the point that your value can be wiped out fairly easily unless you have suitable provisions in your investment agreement. Fighting a case based on the prejudice of minorities is  expensive and incredibly difficult, particularly if you have been forced out and off the board. And even if you win you often don&#8217;t get your legal costs paid. Control or protections over share issues are absolutely vital.</p>
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		<title>By: Naval</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Naval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JTreiber,

Any rational investor would love it if you did this - it&#039;s &quot;putting your money where your mouth is,&quot; and validates the price that they are paying as not being too high. From a game theoretic perspective, it also gives you the same information rights as your investors if you ever leave the company (although information rights often have a minimum ownership threshold, so see what that is), and it might give you tie-breaking power in certain situations (say, if the rest of your Series A is divided across two investors).

However, it does put you in a bit of a conflicted situation on the valuation, so have one of your other founders negotiate the valuation with the Series A, and you just tag along.

Also, make sure that you only signal your readiness to do this once you are *sure.* If you say you&#039;re going to do it and don&#039;t follow through, you&#039;ll be sending a very negative signal on the valuation.

Finally, as a matter of diversification, I would advise against doing this unless the amount is not very consequential to you or unless you believe that the company is being undervalued in this round. You probably already have enough stock in the company and should be diversifying / hedging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTreiber,</p>
<p>Any rational investor would love it if you did this &#8211; it&#8217;s &#8220;putting your money where your mouth is,&#8221; and validates the price that they are paying as not being too high. From a game theoretic perspective, it also gives you the same information rights as your investors if you ever leave the company (although information rights often have a minimum ownership threshold, so see what that is), and it might give you tie-breaking power in certain situations (say, if the rest of your Series A is divided across two investors).</p>
<p>However, it does put you in a bit of a conflicted situation on the valuation, so have one of your other founders negotiate the valuation with the Series A, and you just tag along.</p>
<p>Also, make sure that you only signal your readiness to do this once you are *sure.* If you say you&#8217;re going to do it and don&#8217;t follow through, you&#8217;ll be sending a very negative signal on the valuation.</p>
<p>Finally, as a matter of diversification, I would advise against doing this unless the amount is not very consequential to you or unless you believe that the company is being undervalued in this round. You probably already have enough stock in the company and should be diversifying / hedging.</p>
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		<title>By: JTreiber</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>JTreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question for the group:

I&#039;m a co-founder at OnCard Marketing. We did a convertible note to raise our seed round and will probably begin the Series A process over the next 4 months. I have recently come into some new-found wealth that I would like to invest in the Series A along with existing and new investors to minimize dilution to my founders common equity. I understand I will then own two classes of stock and have similar rights on my preferred stock as my investors.

Question: Will Series A investors want/allow me to do this?

Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for the group:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a co-founder at OnCard Marketing. We did a convertible note to raise our seed round and will probably begin the Series A process over the next 4 months. I have recently come into some new-found wealth that I would like to invest in the Series A along with existing and new investors to minimize dilution to my founders common equity. I understand I will then own two classes of stock and have similar rights on my preferred stock as my investors.</p>
<p>Question: Will Series A investors want/allow me to do this?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a negotiation, you can also try to change the rules of the game (change the formulas).  For example, I know a few CEOs that have successfully negotiated that any option pool be created after the investment by institutional money, not before.  So, the investors took the pool dilution along with the founders.  This represents a significant increase in valuation without asking for an increase in valuation.  It&#039;s a hard chip to win in bargaining, but it&#039;s worth taking a shot considering the high reward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a negotiation, you can also try to change the rules of the game (change the formulas).  For example, I know a few CEOs that have successfully negotiated that any option pool be created after the investment by institutional money, not before.  So, the investors took the pool dilution along with the founders.  This represents a significant increase in valuation without asking for an increase in valuation.  It&#8217;s a hard chip to win in bargaining, but it&#8217;s worth taking a shot considering the high reward.</p>
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		<title>By: Hooshyar Naraghi</title>
		<link>http://venturehacks.com/articles/share-price/comment-page-1#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Hooshyar Naraghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for another great &quot;math of wisdom.&quot;

BTW, not that I am carried away with math, but for the sake of &quot;the rest of us&quot; non-MIT geniuses, it would be easier (and laymanly more digestible), if you first calculated the effective share price as simply as:

s = (p - t.0)/x    (1)

Thus, it follows that

n = t.o/s       (2)

Of course, if in equation (2) we plug in the value of s in equation (1), we get to your equation

n = (t.o.x)/(p - t.o)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for another great &#8220;math of wisdom.&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, not that I am carried away with math, but for the sake of &#8220;the rest of us&#8221; non-MIT geniuses, it would be easier (and laymanly more digestible), if you first calculated the effective share price as simply as:</p>
<p>s = (p &#8211; t.0)/x    (1)</p>
<p>Thus, it follows that</p>
<p>n = t.o/s       (2)</p>
<p>Of course, if in equation (2) we plug in the value of s in equation (1), we get to your equation</p>
<p>n = (t.o.x)/(p &#8211; t.o)</p>
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		<title>By: HipMojo.com - Main Street Meets Madison Avenue, Wall Street and Silicon Valley &#187; The Evolving VC Landscape: VCs Being Attacked, by VCs?</title>
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		<dc:creator>HipMojo.com - Main Street Meets Madison Avenue, Wall Street and Silicon Valley &#187; The Evolving VC Landscape: VCs Being Attacked, by VCs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] post is interesting, mainly because it&#8217;s akin to my advice to stock investors about not looking [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post is interesting, mainly because it&#8217;s akin to my advice to stock investors about not looking [...]</p>
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